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The Empowering Neurologist: David Perlmutter, MD and Dr. David Brady

Fibromyalgia seems to be an ever-increasing problem, and while mainstream medicine now recognizes its existence, it is clear that bringing fibromyalgia under control requires far more than simply writing a prescription for an “FDA-approved drug.”

My guest today is a specialist in treating not just the symptoms of fibromyalgia, but the underlying disorder itself. Dr. David M. Brady has 25 years of experience as an integrative practitioner and over 21 years in health sciences academia. He is a licensed naturopathic physician in Connecticut and Vermont, a board certified clinical nutritionist, and completed his initial clinical training as a doctor of chiropractic. He currently serves as the Vice President for Health Sciences, Director of the Human Nutrition Institute, and Associate Professor of Clinical Sciences at the University of Bridgeport in Connecticut. He also maintains a private practice in Fairfield, CT.

Dr. Brady has published a multitude of peer-reviewed scientific papers and textbooks related to chronic pain, autoimmunity and functional gastroenterology and is a featured contributing author in the medical textbooks including: Advancing Medicine with Food and Nutrients (2nd Ed.), and Integrative Gastroenterology. His latest book, The Fibro-Fix, is the subject of today’s interview.

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  • Ronna Berezin

    Great interview with a dr. who thinks as you do before talking. I found the talks not at all too scientific prob bcI follow you so closely and repeat your lessons to friends allll the time ! I base my life on the good choices you suggest and as a result I am much healthier.

    • David Perlmutter

      Thanks for watching Ronna.

  • Ken Sharlin

    The use of TCAs like amitriptyline is certainly an old standby in the conventional pharmacological treatment of fibromyalgia. However, it does not increase REM sleep. To the contrary, it suppresses REM sleep and delays REM latency.

  • Rickh

    Enjoyed the discussion very much. I have had fibromyalgia for about 30 years following a car accident that happened at a time in my life that was already quite stressful. I have found that all the medical treatments to be of little help even physical med just as the Dr said. For several years now I have been following the advice of alternative Drs like yourself with great results. I have found that centering my diet primarily on real food (plenty of fruit, veggies, nuts, and fermented vegetables) while avoiding wheat, meat, sugar and sweeteners, and alcohol has greatly relieved most of my symptoms even as I move into my 70s.
    You guys are definitely on the right track. Keep up the good work.

    • Jean Brodie

      Years ago I heard while attending a lecture how lots of people suffer from fibromyalgia needlessly (or words to that effect). I’d never heard of it before but paid attention in case I ever met someone with that condition so I could tell them how to become well. I never thought that about 20 years later, I’d need to cure myself. At first I was perplexed with what I was experiencing, and then I realized that I had fibromyalgia!!! Fortunately, I knew what to do! The accident you had and subsequent stress set the stage for you to develop fibromyalgia—you probably were not digesting your food properly and as a result your liver became quite toxic. When our liver is full of toxins that can’t be removed in the normal course, our liver has to do something. It deposits them in our joints, muscles and tissues which results in the pain and stiffness. Therefore, we need to cleanse our liver so it is in good working order, and it can then recall all those toxins it had once released into our body. It took me a year to detox, but I had complete faith in the process. This meant no dairy, flour products, sugar, salt, pepper, alcohol, coffee and only herbal teas. I also had hot and cold showers, dry brushing, and castor oil packs over my liver with a heating pad on top. It was a lot to do but it worked and that was all that mattered! At the end, I had no more pain or stiffness—except when I woke up in the morning. I couldn’t just step out of bed because I had stiffened somewhat during the night. Around that time, I attended a lecture about inflammation and heard about a miracle enzyme called “Serrapeptase.” Since fibromyalgia is an inflammatory condition, I had nothing to lose and decided to give it a try. Of course, after detoxing for a year, I was in the best condition possible to try something like “Serrapeptase,” and was overjoyed 12 days later when one morning, I threw the covers off and stepped out of bed!!! I’ve never looked back since. I have taken a container of TriStar’s Serrapeptase at the beginning of every year since then to put out any fires before they begin. I have no medical qualifications, and this is just my story.

  • Brian Carter

    Fibromyalgia is a poor medical term. I challenge any doctor to tell me what process is the underlying problem when they are told a given person has “fibromyalgia”. This is not the case with diagnosis such as ALS or MS. Patients and practitioners must continue to discover what is the source of the pain and fatigue and what helps moderate the symptoms. It can be Lyme,
    Stiff Person Syndrome or other rarely tested for auto/compromised immune condition. My position does not negate your suggestions but, please do not delusioning yourself or readers by miss labeling fibromyalgia as a meaningful diagnosis that tells patient or doctor what is going on with one’s body except pain and fatigue!

  • Lucy

    Thank you for making me feel like I am not the crazy, depressed person I see reflected back at me through my GP’s eyes. I have bought the book, and look forward to reading it this weekend.

  • Berta Tavlin

    Here’s what I know and how I control my FM: I limit oxalate acid foods and no dairy.

  • Vivi

    My teen daughter has been struggling with what was diagnosed as AMPS but doesn’t account for her dizziness or brain fog. I am going to get this book and hope it offers her some help. Her condition started after a long battle with a virus. She is an athlete and her condition is getting in the way of doing what she loves. Thanks for posting this discussion. Dr. Brady seems extremely knowledgeable and compassionate. Thanks Dr. Perlmutter! I loved the Grain Brain!

  • Jean Brodie

    Many years ago, I attended a lecture where I first heard about fibromyalgia. The speaker said that many people suffered needlessly from this condition when it was easily curable. I remember listening carefully in case I ever met someone with this condition, so I could tell them how to cure themselves. The speaker explained that it was caused by a toxic, overburdened liver, and in order to continue functioning, it expelled toxins into our muscles, joints and tissues. This is what results in pain and stiffness. I never knew that about 20 years later, I’d need this information for myself. But at least I knew what to do, and I immediately began a detox which would last one year—no dairy, sugar, wheat, alcohol, salt, pepper, coffee, or tea (unless it was herbal). I also had hot and cold showers, dry brushing, resting with castor oil packs over my liver with a heating pad on top. Once my liver had been brought back to health, it began recalling all the toxins it had once sent into my joints, muscles and tissues and processed them in the normal way. The result was no more pain or stiffness!!! It worked for me and I hope it works for you!

  • maria

    Excellent interview! I’ve been down this path and found a grain free diet very helpful in regaining health. Pharmaceuticals that were helpful along the way were nystatin (to kill yeast overgrowth) and low dose naltrexone, which I am still on and seems to boost my immune system.

    I was interested that a very difficult childhood can be a factor and was certainly true in my case. Another problem with an abusive childhood, is that it can make a person a bit of an easy target for further abuse.

    • David Perlmutter

      Thanks for watching Maria!

  • Rochelle

    Excellent interview! Mainstream medicine wants a pill for everything but our health doesn’t work that way, we really need a holistic approach like you both are talking here. Thank you.

    • David Perlmutter

      Thanks for watching! Was great to have Dr. Brady on the program.

  • Mariëtte

    Five years ago I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia.
    A special treatment in Switserland helped me a lot temporarily, but it didn’t take away the cause of my health problems.

    It later turned out I had leaky gut. I changed my diet to lactose free and gluten free and I avoid quite some other ingredients. Bioresonance was amazing for finding out which ingredients to avoid. I was sceptical at first but it turned out to work really well.
    Changing my diet helped together with vitamine B12, magnesium etc.

    But what turned out to be the major cause for me was radiation:
    when the earth radiation under our house (my health problems had started a couple of months after we moved here, first some kind of burnout, then Graves disease en then fibromyalgia) had been dealt with this created a huge relief.

    I felt better and more energetic then I could ever remember feeling.
    Our son, who was having the same problems, (a 12 year old with fibromyalgia, he could not go to school for 1,5 years) could finally sleep again.

    So we were doing really well.
    We changed our dect-phone to eco dect, were very cautious with wifi and mobile phones and I was doing great. Sleeping in hotels was not a joy anymore (all of them very proud to have wifi 🙁 ), but in general my health was doing really well.

    This lasted until last year when we got new neighbors, who installed a very strong wifi router.
    Their wifi router was only a few meters away from where I would sit to watch tv (many houses in The Netherlands are detached and ours is semi-detached).

    Suddenly my leaky gut was back. I didn’t understand it at all. I had not changed anything and was doing so much to stay healthy…

    Only after about six months I suddenly realized what the problem was, when we came back from a relatively radiation free holiday. I sat down on the couch and just felt the tension in the air ‘attacking’ my body.

    After talking to our neighbors and not finding a solution, my health problems were so severe (all the fibro symptoms came back and some even worse) that we started looking for another house.
    However, the area we live in is very densely populated and it is very hard to find a place where you are and will remain safe from wifi radiation.

    Fortunately finally we have been able to apply a kind of aluminium foil to the wall which helps enormously, so we are now able to stay in our current home.

    But, my freedom of movement has become very small.
    Radiation effects build in your body and after having been subjected to this heavy radiation for many months I have unfortunately become much more sensitive.
    Now, when I am close to people with mobile phones for a while (already from 15 – 30 minutes, depending on the phone and the amount of people), I get very, very tired and everything hurts.
    I then have to recuperate.

    As mobile phones and wifi are everywhere, it means that it’s very difficult to go places.
    But, I am lucky, I am starting a nursery, which has been my dream for a long time and it’s in a place where there is few radiation. Being outside and working with plants is amazing, so I am very lucky.

    I am writing this because I want to alert other fibromyalgia patients to look into the possibility that radiation is an influence.
    And I think many people’s health is compromised by this kind of radiation, also people who don’t have fibro, but who are suffering of e.g. depression, sleeping problems, etc. and most of us don’t realize it.
    The range of health complaints thanks to wifi and mobile radiation is very broad and it’s really something to be aware of!

    Thank you dr. Perlmutter, for your books and your video’s. I think your work is extremely important!!

  • Carole Gray-Weihman

    Great interview! Very informative. Regarding Mitochondrial function and sleep, autoimmune conditions, organic acid analysis, diet, de-toxing, botanical interventions and getting the microbiome healthy. I’m a big believer of reducing inflammation in the body by developing good habits with diet and exercise. Being diagnosed with Fibromyalgia CFIDs complex, and Thyroiditis back in the early 90’s and then surviving an episode of Thyroid Storm 5 years ago, I’ve questioned my doctor’s diagnosis. But, I’ve dropped the idea that I need to name my issues and have adopted the approach of living as healthy a lifestyle as possible to get myself well again. It’s been a long battle. But when I went grain and sugar free a few years ago and started excising regularly, I’ve relieved my symptoms tremendously. I’m on no medications, just the supplements you’ve recommended in “Grain Brain”. I’ll definitely pick up “The Fibro-Fix”.

    • David Perlmutter

      You’ll enjoy the book for sure Carole. Do share your thoughts after reading.

  • John

    Fibromyalgia (and a host of other conditions) are an accumulation of a number of modalities. Many conditions are related to life stresses, diet and information. I highly recommend people with this condition read information about diet and stress. On the stress side Divided Mind by Dr Sarno and Freedom from Fibromyalgia by Dr Selfridge. You handle all else in a great way. Thanks for all you do!

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