The Empowering Neurologist – David Perlmutter, MD and Dr. Joseph Mercola

Dr. Joe Mercola is my guest today on The Empowering Neurologist. He is a board-certified family physician who has treated over 25,000 patients from around the world. Dr. Mercola encourages and educates people about safe and inexpensive nutritional, lifestyle and exercise options to radically reduce their risk of dying prematurely from dangerous drugs and surgeries, as well as cancer and so many of our common and largely preventable degenerative conditions.

The topic of our discussion today is his new book, Fat For Fuel. It’s a powerfully user-friendly text that not only clarifies the rationale for powering the body with fat as opposed to sugar and carbs, but also walks the reader through the straightforward nuts and bolts as to how to implement this program and achieve better health.

And, as many of you well know, Dr. Mercola is the founder of Mercola.com which has been the most visited natural health site on the internet for the last ten years with over 15 million unique visitors every month.

  • ind_liberty

    Thank you both for this discussion. As someone who was diagnosed as a juvenile diabetic 22 years ago, the information that I have received from the two of you has helped me greatly.

    Whether it is intermittent fasting, using coconut oil, focusing and eating more healthy fats, high intensity interval training, the list goes on.

    Reading Grain Brain put me on the right course to better health as have the articles I consistently read by Dr. Mercola. Thank you both!

  • spacebirdmom

    Thanks so much – always interested in your interviews. I’ve been on a very low carb diet for quite a while, and a ketogenic diet since the first of the year. I am interested in his “cycling” discussion and limiting of protein – have pre-ordered the book in both hard copy & Kindle. 🙂

    • David Perlmutter

      Thanks for watching!

    • ginbit

      I’ve been on the Keto diet since first of October 2016. Very happy, lost weight, improved brain focus and energy. I’ve been very strict about my diet, and now I’m wondering about this cycling, as I’ve been told that is just excuses to eat carbs and it takes awhile to get back into ketosis! I hate to get out of ketosis, as it works for me. Reached my weight goal in January and easy for me to maintain…afraid eating things outside of my woe, would lead me astray.

      • spacebirdmom

        Me, too!!

        • ginbit

          I pre-ordered the book, but no delivery date was suggested.

  • Donna

    I keep waiting for something new in treatment for non-diabetic peripheral neuropathy. Anything???

    • Jim Moss

      Donna, please feel free to contact me at: vistavalleyjim@gmail.com
      I may be able give you some new ideas… I am an 84 year old man. I inherited non-diabetic peripheral neuropathy from my mothers side of my family. Have looked into many aspects of the condition over the last 12 years I have been aware of it. And, have been able to slow the progression almost to a standstill with combinations of nutritional healing methods (gleaned Dr. Perlmutter’s books and those of numerous others such as Dr. Natasha Campbell-McBride, Dr. Amy Myers, Dr. Terry Wahls, the research findings of Green Meds Sayer Ji, and quite a few other sources.) I find it very interesting that all these researchers had a common thread that brought them to searching for methods of nartural healing. They all had family members, or in the cases of Drs. Myers and Wahls their own selves, that were not being “cured” by the best treatment traditional medicine had to offer and that thread spured them on to ask “why”?
      I also have extensive experience in the field of hyperbaric oxygen use and synaptic neuromodulation use to get around the blood barrier and aid in solution of the problem.
      If I had a way of contacting him directly,, I would love to get on the phone with Dr. Perlmutter as I have thoughts that even his dads condition might be reversible to some extent with combinations of other modes of treatment.
      Yes, I sure am verbose for an 84 year old! Hope to hear from you. Jim

    • Ginny

      Maybe you could talk with your MD and see if he /she has checked your B-12 level. That is not an uncommon cause of peripheral neuropathy. You might also ask to have your A1C (average blood sugar over a 2-3 mo period) checked. Just to be on the safe side. Good luck!

      • Carol

        Like B12 deficiency, B6 (pyridoxine) deficiency also can lead to peripheral neuropathy (numbness and tingling in the extremities). Good to have this checked at the same time. This website discusses the wide-reaching causes of PN including hidden infections (eg Lyme) or autoimmune conditions, vasculitis, kidney issues, etc.: https://www.foundationforpn.org/what-is-peripheral-neuropathy/causes/

    • Marci

      Once I got the mercury out of my mouth, increased my B12 level via injectable hydroxocobalamin, & used infrared LED light therapy on my legs & feet-I don’t have any symptoms. Do your research on light therapy & talk to your doctor. Good Luck!

  • joanna

    I am a huge fan of David Perlmutter & have read & re-read all his books. I am currently reading Gary Taubes, The Case Against Sugar, & have just Pre-ordered Dr Mercola’s new book, Fat for Fuel. I have also just ordered Travis Christopherson’s, Tripping over the Truth.
    Clearly, I am fascinated by the subject of health & nutrition but I do find that a low protein/ high fat & minimal carb diet is hard to follow. Dr Mercola sounds in this interview as if he just lives on avocados! I like them too, and coconut oil but I find that some protein makes this type of meal more palatable. I like nuts & oily fish & eggs & cheese too but as well as being fatty, these are also high protein foods. I have no problem with low carb and Intermittent Fasting, also widely recommended, but I am finding low protein eating just so restrictive- any ideas anyone? Please.

  • Rochelle

    Amazing interview! Thank you so much.

    • David Perlmutter

      Thank you for watching Rochelle!

  • maria

    Fascinating interview, thank you. I do intend to implement these suggestions, as I do have a few heath concerns, including a hopefully non-aggressive type of thyroid cancer that my doctors are using a “wait and watch” approach on. I do appreciate knowing about the necessity of “cycling” between low and high carb. I wonder, however, why Dr. Mercola looks so unwell, when his mitochondria are so healthy. Should we be concerned by this? Also, this extreme form of low carb, low protein, high fat diet is not replicated anywhere in nature, is it?

    • Lynn Smith

      yes I was also concerned about how Dr Mercola looked on the interview. Can Dr P or M respond to this concern?

    • Carol

      Taking a stab at your question, I’d say the Inuit diet is such a diet (the traditional one, not today’s, which has incorporated processed food). Also, Dr M is almost 63, so I’d say he looks pretty good for his age!

  • AnnieLaurie Burke

    A bit off topic, but there is no link to view Dr. ‘s presentation from today’s (5/4/17) Food Summit session.

    • David Perlmutter

      They Summit owns that discussion AnnieLaurie, so you would need to contact them.

  • Rhonda

    Does the book explain how to implement this program if you are vegan?

  • karin

    A wonderful discussion of two of my most esteemed scientists.Thank you so much for sharing all these new insights with us, I have learned already so much from the two of you so I could change my lifestyle at 74 years old for the better!

  • Linda Smith

    Great interview. I can’t wait to get the book “Fat for Fuel”. I pre ordered it!!

  • Syd Beaux

    This is great, thanks.

    But, I’ve read that people with adrenal fatigue have to be careful with restricting carbs/ketogenic diet or it can cause an increase in cortisol and fatigues the adrenals further.

    In addition, I understand that people with oxalate issues have to restrict fat intake!

    Are there modifications that one can do so that you can still use fat for fuel while not further exacerbating these issues?

    Thanks much!

  • Syd Beaux

    Also, my mother no longer has a gall bladder. Ever since her gall bladder surgery she’s had bad bile salt diarrhea. (Sorry if that’s TMI!) She really wants to do this protocol. But can she, given the above?

    • Carol

      It is very important for people without gall bladders to take supplemental enzymes to help them digest fat (such as oxbile, or a vegetarian form of lypase) before increasing fat intake. Without adequate bile we can’t digest fat, and those without gall bladders are particularly vulnerable to fat malabsorption (this causes your mom’s digestive issue). Consumerlab.com tests all kinds of supplements, including some of Dr. Mercola’s products. Here’s a link to their review of digestive enzyme products: https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/digestive_enzyme_supplements/digestive-enzymes/
      One piece of good news is, unlike other fats, coconut oil doesn’t require bile to be digested, due to its shorter carbon chain, so that might be a great option.

      • syd

        Thanks much!

  • david bayer

    Enlightening interview. Thank you so much.

    I looked for “chronometer.com” as Dr. Mercola mentioned. I must have the spelling wrong as I was unable to find it. Also Dr Siegfried; how does he spell his name? Thanks.

  • Randall Pow

    I am a retired MD/Homeopathic physician who is confused by the seemingly polar opposite camps of the Dean Ornish/John Robbins camp of low fat vegetarianism (recent Food Summit at which you were a guest speaker) and the Mercola/Ketogenic fat for fuel approach. Both camps indicate there is ample research to support their approach. Please help me sort out my confusion.
    Randall Pow

    • John

      I am having the same problem.

      • Andy

        Read Dr Mark Hyman’s “Eat Fat Get Thin”. He does a good job of supporting his hypothesis (that good fats are good for you) w data and scientific studies.

        • John

          I did. That’s the problem. So much evidence discounts what he says. Check out Nutrition facts. org

  • Carol

    Quite eye-opening to learn about the mTOR pathway and dangers of too much protein. I’ve heard Dave Asprey and Abel James talk about this. Many people understandably lean heavily on protein when transitioning away from starchy carbs. Bodybuilders in particular tend to overdose on protein at the expense of fat and in doing so, they become deficient in vitamin A, which ironically has been dubbed “the forgotten bodybuilding nutrient”. For those who have been on a low-fat diet for a long time, the ‘mouthfeel’ of extra dietary fat takes some getting used to. I do believe that fat is the most satiating thing we can eat! I look forward to learning more about metabolism from Dr. Mercola’s new book. It is nothing short of revolutionary to find out that many (noninfectious) diseases are metabolic in origin. Will modern medicine respond to this revelation by avoiding the obvious elephant in the room- DIET- and create more drugs to regulate metabolic processes (as it currently does by prescribing metformin, w/ its side effects, instead of simply recommending a low-glycemic diet for Type II diabetics)? It’s great to know that diet, which we can fully control, is such a huge leverage point in our health.

  • Factotum

    I purchased “Fat for Fuel” based on this interview and read it with interest. I’ve been in Nutritional Ketosis for 5 years and love it. I was hoping Mercola’s new book could be one I offer to friends interested in LCHF and most of it meets that standard, but I was very disappointed at the end of the book where goes from discussing the scientifically sound rationale for LCHF and then goes off the rails to recommend “structured water”! I thought “surely one of Mercola’s pre-publication reviewing colleagues who have done so much to make public the enormous benefits of LCHF must have told him to ditch that section”! Mixing in the magic undermines the credibility of the discussion on LCHF. This has been a problem with Mercola for years.

  • Helgs

    Thanks for this discussion, curious have you heard about the benefits of Nrf2 activation on the body as well…I think in combination we have an extremely powerful tool – it has been the catalyst for putting my rheumatoid arthritis into remission – happy to share if interested.

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